The Beginning of the Erosion of Our Rights

Roni has a lot to say about the so-called “partial birth abortion” ban. Rather than rehash everything she said, I’m pointing you over there, because she said it all so well.


6 Responses

  1. There is a point where a person’s rights should be superceded by reason. Unless all of the info that I have ever seen on late-term abortions is a fabrication by evil politicians who want to go all big brother on us, what I have seen is worse than what Susan Smith or that woman in Texas did to their kids.

    I am pro-choice to a degree, but I also hate abortion as a general rule. The form of abortion in question is abhorent in ways that I do really do not wish to describe. I can’t bullshit myself and say that the images that I have seen are fabrications or exagerations. None of the doctors who perform them are stepping forward to deny it, so the only reason that I would not believe what I have seen would be to place myself in denial so that I would not have to accept that such a thing existed.

    The thing that gets me is doctors who perform this operation. Don’t they take and oath to preserve life? If it was being performed to save the mother, I could see it. That is the only reason that I could ever accept it. I guess I just have a serious issue with anyone spouting off about taking away the right to do such a thing.

    I am prepared for the stones and rotten tomatoes, throw away.

  2. I mostly agree with Brian. I mean not to start an all out argument or what not, but the people I’ve discussed this with basically tried to tell me it wasn’t my business because I’m a man and it’s not my body. My response has always been, “Fine…do whatever you want to YOUR body, get a tatoo jump in a blender whatever, but it’s not your body now is it? it’s someone elses, a little baby who can’t speak up. That’s taxation w/out representation.” Well not taxation, but you get my point. We have lots of rights…those rights end where it tramples on others rights…that’s why I have the right to go whereever I want….unless it’s trespassing, because those people have a right to privacy. Just because I can’t go on certain peoples properties doesn’t mean I’m limiting my rights….that’s just how it is.

    Please read this in the tone it was meant, not malicious at all…just an opinion.


  3. You’re certainly both entitled to your opinions. Even if you’re wrong. ;p

    But seriously… There are several problems with this law. The first being that it bans a non-existant procedure. There is no such medical procedure as a “partial birth abortion.” That, combined with the vague language, make it somewhat ambiguous about what, exactly it’s banning. That means that it can be randomly applied to other, legal abortion procedures.

    In addition, the law makes no provision for the health of the mother being at risk, or future fertility. The government does not have the right to tell women that they must risk their health, future fertility, or lives to give birth.

    I said you have a right to your own opinion, and I mean that. You do. So if you’re ever in a position where a woman in your family is faced with such a terrible decision, you do what you have to in order to plead your case with her. But keep your morals and your laws off my body.

  4. And one other thing…

    Fewer than 1% of abortions are performed after 20 weeks, and they are extremely rare after 26 weeks of pregnancy. Typically abortions provided in the third trimester are limited to cases of severe fetal abnormalities. There’s no epidemic of late-term abortions performed by heartless doctors breaking their hypocratic oaths.

  5. Kim’s feelings on this speak for us both. The language being used for a procedure that doesn’t exist is just one way the Religious Right is whittling away at women’s rights.

    Do you WANT a return of coat-hanger abortions? That could happen, and sooner than people realize.